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THE US CITIZENS SUPRESSED WITH IRON FIST

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Monday June 24, 2002 15:00author by GILLO Report this post to the editors

To question the war in the US means to be black listed fired from your job and imprisoned you should know big brother is watching and acting on what he sees

with ten of millions of Americans caught up in the massive prison industrial complex the citizens of the U.S. know what it is like to live in fear of their government that’s out of their control
The implications of what is going down on the ground in the US has major global impact considering that the insane rulers of this dictatorship have control of tens of thousands of nuclear weapons and plan on using them soon to depopulate the regions of the world on their target list for seizure they plan to kill all who stand in the way of their fascist plans

author by Raymond McInerney - Global Country of World Peacepublication date Mon Jun 24, 2002 16:59author email raymond.mcinerney at ul dot ieauthor address 122 vale Avenue, Carew Park, Limerickauthor phone Report this post to the editors

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a
double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever
pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry.
Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so.
How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar."
~ Julius Caesar


H.R. 3162, "The Patriot Bill," or the antiterrorism bill, might make you a terrorist. Any persons among us who have accepted that certain
civil liberties must be abridged in time of war, or forever, for the sake of security, are going to learn Ben Franklin's lesson the hard way:
"Those who would give up freedom for security deserve, and will get, neither."
First, the antiterrorism bill so loved by Congress and the White House has redefined terrorism. According to Sec. 802, (a)(5)(B)(ii), "the term
'domestic terrorism' means activities that appear to be intended to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion." Again:
If the activity appears to be intended to influence the policy of a government not just the United States government by intimidation,
it's domestic terrorism. Most important: Since all we require is intimidation, how would we define that?
"Intimidation" does not seem to be defined in H.R. 3162. We thus must turn to authoritative dictionaries, which say such things as "to make timid."
Put it in the hands of a trial lawyer, and here's how it could play out: Have you ever felt intimidated by someone smarter, larger, older, wealthier,
higher in rank, more attractive, more physically fit, more passionate, or more popular than yourself? That's all it takes to establish intimidation
in court being made timid. Get a jury or judge to buy your version of events, and you win.
So while intimidation is a weak criterion, far too easy to establish in a court of law, you don't even have to establish anyone's intent to intimidate,
much less his success at intimidating someone. You, the prosecutor, have to establish only the appearance of the intention to intimidate any
government, and you can try anyone for domestic terrorism.
So, those of us who disagree publicly with the government's responses to 9/11 especially if our disagreements are reasoned, well-supported, and impassioned are, by definition, terrorists. The only requirement is that someone, somewhere believes it appears we're trying to intimidate
the government. This is an ominous glower over free speech.
How ominous? It depends in part on whether you're a foreigner. Suppose a Canadian citizen writes an anti-war column for an American website.
Bush signed an executive order on Tuesday, November 13, which allows for any foreigner connected to the events of 9/11 to be tried by military
tribunal. This means, among other things, that the trials can be held in secret, defendants do not get the usual protections (such as an extended
appeals process), the death penalty is an option, and Bush decides who is tried. If the notion of "connected" is as vague and potentially
encompassing as the definition of "domestic terrorism" mentioned above, all foreigners who speak out in disagreement with the
US government might have reason to fear suspicion with regard to 9/11.
Remember that foreigners aren't alone
H.R. 3162 applies to everyone. Foreigners are singled out only in Bush's executive order.
The only difference between foreigners and citizens is the option of the military tribunal.
We've all heard how new laws won't function in unintended ways: The Civil Rights Act wouldn't result in hiring quotas;
the Americans with Disabilities Act wouldn't result in costly and ridiculous lawsuits (such as the Supreme Court deciding the rules of golf);
and the Endangered Species act wouldn't threaten property rights.
With such unintended consequences being the rule rather than the exception, be careful not to complain about the amount
of your Social Security check or tax liability. Don't complain about emissions regulations. Don't complain about anything the
government says or does. According to the definitions in H.R. 3162, your speech (especially if it's cogent) need only criticize
the government, and you could stand accused of domestic terrorism.
Despite the fact that Hitler's monsters were responsible for at least 50 million deaths
- 10,000 times greater than the victims of 11 September -
the Nazi murderers were given a trial at Nuremberg because US President Truman made a remarkable decision:
"Undiscriminating executions or punishments without definite findings of guilt fairly arrived at,
would not fit easily on the American conscience or be remembered by our children with pride."

 
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