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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13Ms. Nathan, has decided that life for her would be easier to collude with the people who want to see the country of Israel destroyed, and what shw has not come to terms with, is that they also want the removal of all Jews, her included. She is delusional, sick, and should not be considered as a legitimate voice of Israeli people. She represents what the Palestinanians would be considerd "collaborators" except in Israel, they do not shot them in the head or hand them in the city square. We just want them implode all by themselves. She will be loved by those who want to hear the message, and laughed at, or ignored by Jews who have a love of life.
The previous comment is obviously motivated by ignorance and fear, and suspect since the person impolitely refused to post his/her name.
If more of us here in Israel had the courage of Susan Nathen then we might have a chance of creating a just and democratic society in the land of Palestine/Israel. G-d help us all if we fail to reach out to each other. Susan Nathan is showing us the way. Bless her.
"creating a just and democratic society in the land of Palestine/Israel."
There already is a democracy in the region. Only one. Which the Arabs have been trying to destroy for 60 years.
Zionists and thier enablers like to claim that Arabs want to destroy "Israel." That makes the Palestinians seem offensive to the brainwashed masses.
But since outside of ZIonist occupied Palestinian lands, there is NO "Israel". Instead of saying Arabs want to drive Israel into the sea, why not say "Palestinians want to drive the ZIonist crusaders out of the Palestinian's homeland??? Oh, that makes it painfully clear that Palestinians "destroying Israel" would be a defensive action.
If Hebrews being murderous thieves of the land 3000 years ago really does give ZIonists thier alleged "birthright" of murderous theft of Palestinian lands, then lets hear it. Otherwise, scapegoating Palestinians just showcases your own prejudices.
And how does being a democracy give ZIonists a birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands. Is there ANYONE who can back up that supposition with ANYTHING of substance??? Come on, how could the ZIonist crusader's form of governance give them a birthright of murderous theft of ANYTHING? That is one of the most prejudiced suppositions ZIonists have come up with.
"That makes the Palestinians seem offensive to the brainwashed masses."
LOL!!! What's offensive about blowing up innocent women and children? Strapping bombs around your kid's waists and detonating the explosives by remote control?
What's offensive about murdering any chance of peace they've ever been confronted with?
"Murdering any chance of peace"
Obviously you think that the ZIonist occupation of Palestinian lands equates to peace. Can you add anything of substance to your own supposition? I bet you can't. I bet you are just showcasing your own offensive prejudices.
Other than that, you called ZIonists occupying Palestinian lands "innocent". Can you tell us why you consider Zionist occupiers of Palestinian lands to be innocent when thier very occupation of Palestinian lands prooves thier offense.
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"I don't hate Jews, I just hate Jews".
you already wrote it once.
why not do so again?
don't you like your racist comments removed?
Publishers Weekly wrote that she claims she had sex with an aunt's black servant in South Africa "to make a political statement". Most have sex to have an orgasm.
She became dissatisfied with her husband and left him, then she became dissatisfied with England and left it, then she became dissatisfied with Zionism and left it, and finally she became dissatisfied with her Jewish neighbors and left them to live in a little town in Northern Israel where she learned all about the injustices of the Israelis from her 25,000 Arab neighbors with no Jewish voice to create a little balance. Where did she get personal knowledge about all this discrimination and injustice? How long will it take before she becomes dissatisfied with the Arabs?
She's a flake.
Sovereignty over Judea, Samaria, and Israel is disputed.
Israelis have a far better claim than so called "Palestinians"
Jews title is derived from: 1. God, as stated in the bible, 2. From Article 95 of the 1920 Treaty of Sevres, which is based on the Balfour Declaration as accepted by the WWI allies in the Conference of San Remo. This transferred sovereignty from the Ottoman Empire which had exercised undisputed sovereignty for several hundred years to the British in trust for a national homeland for the Jews, 3. By conquest in the defensive 1967 war started by the Egyptian blockade of Israeli shipping which is a casus belli and by Jordan's shelling. Under the Articles of the League of Nations, the conqueror has the right to exercise sovereignty over the conquered territory until a peace treaty is negotiated.
"Palestinians" is a ficticious people that was invented for political purposes in the 1960s according to Zahir Muhsein, a member of the PLO executive committee who said:
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism.".
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=4029
Most so called "Palestinians" are in fact immigrants from surrounding Arab states or first generation descendents
of them. Almost all "Palestinians" in the refugee camps have never lived in Israel. See Aryeh Avneri, "Claim of Dispossession"
Arabs now call Judea and Samaria the "West Bank" because wouldn't it look silly to say that the Jews are illegally occupying Judea.
Its interesting that this appears on the day of the gaza pullout.
As for quotes etc
there are many qutoes to show how Israel was never under threat in 1967 and wanted war.
As regards palestinians being fictious,
The Balfour Declaration you mention and the subsequent treaty should be seen in light of Balfours quotes that
"under no circumstance will the indigenous people of the area be consulted"
strange that he did want to consult with people that werent actaully there
quotes are like statistics, they can fit any purpose
Occupation of palestinian land is illegal and the world see this, the Gaza pullout is sad for the settlers but they dont belong there. How can a people justify their occupation of land based on the bible, if thats the case
god giveth and god taketh away
1. Who is this God person anyway, and if (s)he exists would (s)he approve of what is being done in (her)his name?
2. Who are the Brits, Ottomans etc. to take land from its rightful brown owners and give it to a bunch of white supremacist rightwing nutcases from Brooklyn and elsewhere who want to ethnically cleanse it of its rightful brown inhabitants in order to set up a monothestic state?
The land wasn't simply GIVEN away - there were numerous diplomatic initiatives taken between Britain, Ottoman, Jewish and Arab sides regarding the division of the land. If the Palestinians and Arabs had accepted the 1947 Partition Plan - instead of declaring war on Israel with the intention of destroying it and ethnically cleansing its Jewish population - there would have been no refugee crisis.
Plus, not all Israelis are "white supremacists" from Brooklyn - indeed, most Israelis are as brown - or sometimes even darker - than your beloved Palestinians. Jews are also indigenous to the Middle East, and to the Land of Israel.
This is not to say that Israel hasn't done some awful things, but trying to view the conflict in terms of "brown natives vs evil white colonialists" is wrong and dishonest.