Al Qaeda warns Berlusconi

by Phil Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:06 asa at bicuitNOSPAM dot com

You Love Death, we love life. Bring it on, let the Spanish and Philipino pussies flee.

by Gaillimhed Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:32

Supremist arrogance and ignorance!.
Elements within Islam are fundamentalist nutcases, and Elements within Western Christian capitalism are fundamentalist nutcases. They are at War right now. Neither is morally superior, both are corrupt and inhuman, both will be destroyed.

ead the following for an interesting article on extreme christian evangelicism..

Jesus and Jihad
By Nicholas D. Kristoff
New York Times
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/071804C.shtml

" If the latest in the "Left Behind" series of evangelical thrillers is to be believed, Jesus will return to Earth, gather non-Christians to his left and toss them into everlasting fire:

"Jesus merely raised one hand a few inches and a yawning chasm opened in the earth, stretching far and wide enough to swallow all of them. They tumbled in, howling and screeching, but their wailing was soon quashed and all was silent when the earth closed itself again."

These are the best-selling novels for adults in the United States, and they have sold more than 60 million copies worldwide. The latest is "Glorious Appearing," which has Jesus returning to Earth to wipe all non-Christians from the planet. It's disconcerting to find ethnic cleansing celebrated as the height of piety. "

Full article can be found at:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/071804C.shtml

by on-looker Wed Jul 21, 2004 13:02

Ireland has had a variety of religious and political fundmentalists too (e.g. Born Again Christians and dogmatic Communists). They may not agree with anyone around them but they are prepared to extend a minimum of tolerance to ensure peaceful co-existence. This is very helpful when we wish to develop a multi-cultural society.

The example of the rest of Europe is that conversative Islam has no wish to integrate with their host society or tolerate those beliefs they disagree with.

Free Speech is threatened by violent reactions to anything deemed blasphemous to Islam.

"Why cant we all just get along?" is not a solution when Sharia Law has very clear ideas on how to deal with adulterous women and homosexuals, etc.

Note how Peter Thatchell and Ken Livingstone differed on the visit of the "moderate cleric".

by the merrovinginvanjan Wed Jul 21, 2004 18:12

Spain withdrew her troops because the party that won the General Election three days after the bombing fought it's campaign on non-intervention in Iraq, Spain has since voted to send troops to Afghanistan and Haiti however.

Italy is presently processing an extradition of Mohomad "the Egyptian" for his presumed part in the preparation of M11. He was arrested along with many others of the "AlQ umbrella" in a pan-european swoop which occured in the first weeks of May and was very much concentrated in Italy. So, on the face of recent developments it seems less likely that AlQ will attack Italy soon.

Since this type of article, contributes to the general deepening of public understanding of the level of threat posed by Islamic Fundementalism, and the effects of same on European political decision making, it might be a good idea to source them.

by Harry Webb Wed Jul 21, 2004 22:49

It's ecen more unbelievable that there are still people taking Marx seriously. After all that's happened.

Some people are just plain stupid. Whaddya gonna do?

by gargoyle Thu Jul 22, 2004 03:23

This was up before, but I guess someone who is afraid of the truth decided that being politically correct is more important than free speech so I'll say what I saw someone else say:

Berlusconi was right when he said western civilization is superior to Islamic society. I'm not surprised he would be targeted by Al Queda for this.

by Gaillimhed Mon Jul 26, 2004 17:45

bang on there harry Web, any cursory reading of marx would show most of these kids that the old guy forgot one minor detail ; People.
Anyway Marx has made his contribution and arguing over his right or wrong is idiotic at this stage, 19th century politics in the 21st century!
Incidentally the fight between Left and Right will end in much the same way as that of the current fundamentalist islam Vs Fundamentalist Christian war, The final realisation of their complete redundancy and inadequacy.

Gargoyle, by the way,
the very attitude that you profess, ie: your own societys supremacy over another, is the very proof of your society being a savage and uncivilised mob, no worse admittedly than the bogeyman it has chosen to pit itself against in this current round of territorial teethbaring and primate savagery.
the sooner people learn to identify the base realities of what we term 'civilisation' and recognise it for what it is : primitive tribalism.
At best we are slightly domesticated primates, and as long as we continue to act in ignorance and arrogance we are doomed to continue to savage each other to death generation after stupid generation of idiot god fearing/allah fearing, greedy, narcissistic, vain, ignorant , violent small minded idolaters.

by jimbo Mon Jul 26, 2004 18:14

We most show tolerance and understanding towards others. However, tolerance cannot be extended to religious fanatics as they do not desire to live in peace alongside other people.

by hhot Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:20

Here, here!There's too much of a desire to pander to non-western extremism by some on the Left simply , it seems, because it IS non-western. Ironic when you realise what this ideology would mean for those who claim to believe in greater rights justice and freedoms.Those in the middle-east who fight for human rights deserve the support of the world. The religious fascists deserve none of it!