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category national | miscellaneous | news report author Monday May 26, 2003 19:28author by Paul J. - Ex-ISO Report this post to the editors

Why is this being censored?

The Australian affiliate of the SWP has just split. For a long time the membership has been slowly draining away. Yesterday, 21 members including founder members resigned en masse.

The British SWP has been pushing political perspectives onto other organisations in the IST that are unrealistically up beat and quite out of keeping with the real situation around us. Instead of a sober analysis of the world, we have been told that this is the best time ever to be a socialist. Any questioning of this idea has been met with hostility. The ISO has submerged itself in every movement, but we have refrained from arguing our politics properly. Socialist Worker became more frequent although the circulation wasn't great at a lesser frequency. The organisation has been hyper-active without stopping to think. Those who have resigned from the ISO remain committed to building a socialist organisation on the basis of IS politics.

This is of direct relevance to Ireland because the path pushed by the British SWP on compliant leaderships throughout the IST is the same in Ireland as it is in Australia. In Ireland too, the SWP's perspectives are unrealistic. The similarities go as far as the launching of a more frequent newspaper despite low circulation.

To the International Socialist Organisation

Dear Comrades,

It is with reluctance that we have decided to resign from the International Socialist Organisation.

The downward spiral of the group over the last two years shows no sign of abating. The respite from the general atmosphere of hostility and defensiveness following our last conference in December 2002 was only temporary. The resignations of long-standing comrades since conference have been met with indifference from the ISO national leadership.

Despite a stated commitment at conference to resolve our differences in the context of building the movement and the ISO, we have seen heavy-handed organisational measures and a refusal to discuss differences in a comradely fashion by the ISO leadership.

"Looking reality in the face" is the starting point for correcting mistakes, but there is a complete failure to acknowledge the scale of crisis that confronts the group. Critical comments are dismissed out of hand or met with allegations of factionalism. We have no confidence that this is about to change.

Following conference, we saw the emergence of a massive international anti-war movement and the largest anti-war demonstrations in Australia's history. That the ISO failed to grow out of this movement, has no greater political coherence, no larger established periphery and if anything smaller meetings is a serious indictment of the current practice of the group. This compares poorly with the dramatic political response and growth the organisation experienced in the first Gulf War. In itself, this recent failure should cause serious self-reflection on the part of the group. That this follows two years of intense internal crisis is why we have decided to act today.

Similarly, despite the resilience and significance of the refugee movement, the group seems unable to systematically integrate the campaign into its political work. On campuses, we have failed to build out of any of the very significant movements that have punctuated political life on campus. Discussion of the ISO's failure to build has been limited and discouraged.

This failure to analyse the current period or to reflect and appraise our own successes and failures in relating to the period, must cause confusion for all members at all levels of the ISO and may go some way to explain the malaise we believe is endemic in the organisation.

"A good militant today is an informed militant,” wrote Susan George soon after Seattle. Yet the underplaying of politics has been a persistent feature of the group's perspective in recent years. Conference itself recognised that there had been a one-sided emphasis on activism that had depoliticised the group. However, there has been no attempt to systematically redress this problem.

At the last conference, many comrades attempted to identify the issues underlying the crisis in the ISO. This was an attempt to assess the state of the group and try to understand the causes of our lack of growth in a period that is a very positive one for socialists.

Many of the issues raised in the pre-conference document An Urgent Need to Take Stock remain relevant. Two of them are of particular importance.

(i) Ideological intervention and the role of a small group. The emphasis on building the "next big event" means that the question of political intervention is constantly down-played. Consequently, despite overstatements about the possibility of "leading the movement" the organisational response means that we don't offer a political lead on campuses, local groups or in campaigns where we can find an audience for our ideas and have some influence. The group shifts from issue to issue often without any political discussion and without a sustained commitment to the campaigns. This makes it impossible to build long term relationships with other activists.

(ii) An organisational structure that fits with the period and the needs of a small group. The period demands a high level of political discussion and debate, yet current Marxist Forums are often devoid of theory, polemic, traditions and historical experience. These are crucial to respond to and to explain the political questions thrown up in campaigns as well as general questions presented by the crisis in capitalism which comrades face when interacting with classmates, co-workers and friends.

There is also a lack of political space for the very thing that is crucial to developing members' confidence to understand and to lead - discussing and learning from intervention in the campaigns themselves.

It has become impossible for us to discuss our differences with the current perspective and practices of the ISO within the framework of the ISO. Attempts to do so are met with animosity. In turn this animosity clouds the issues, avoids responding to the substance of any criticism and most importantly impedes the process of understanding the world and our role in it. We hope a resolution of these differences will become possible as we work together in future struggles.

We remain committed to the need for revolutionary organisation, the essential elements of socialism from below and the fundamental politics that distinguishes the International Socialist Tendency.

We take seriously the task of bringing Marxism to the layers of people influenced by anti-capitalism and who are politicised by the anti-war and refugee movements. We will shortly convene meetings to discuss how we can begin that task.

By establishing a practice of working alongside others on campus, in trade unions, in campaigns and other work, we hope to make socialist ideas relevant to the struggles in which they are involved and to show the links between those immediate struggles and the capitalist system.

We believe that a lively, comradely and political practice of discussion and debate is central to building a socialist movement.

We don't underestimate the difficulties, but there is no doubt that the questioning of the prevailing world order holds many opportunities for socialist ideas to gain a significant hearing. The sheer numbers of people who came out again and again to oppose the war on Iraq against the lies of our rulers and their media as well as the determination of the refugee movement are evidence of that possibility.

We therefore tender our resignations from the International Socialist Organisation.

Emilie Awbery
Greg Brown
Brett Cardinal
John Cleary
Scott Gault
Paul Gibens
Mark Gillespie
Mark Goudkamp
Kym Hickey
Paul Jacobs
Silja Leskinen
Shelly Menzies
Eliot Morland
Jean Parker
Ian Rintoul
Andrew Rivett
Nikki Thiedeke
Liz Thompson
Michael Thomson
Jess Reed
Josh Wood

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Why does this keep being deleted?     Paul J.    Mon May 26, 2003 19:30 
   Another unfair removal - Sign Blair War Crime Petition     Mark    Mon May 26, 2003 19:38 
   Instant access to petition site     Mark    Mon May 26, 2003 19:44 
   Depressing reading     Happy Harry Harrison    Mon May 26, 2003 19:53 
   this explains a lot     independent    Mon May 26, 2003 20:17 
   The SWP united will never be defeated!     SWPer    Mon May 26, 2003 20:19 
   Here we go again...     Don    Mon May 26, 2003 21:10 
   Poor Don     independent    Mon May 26, 2003 22:13 
   Independent (as in The Irish)     Don    Mon May 26, 2003 22:19 
 10   comment     james trotsky    Tue May 27, 2003 00:32 
 11   oops     jamestrotsky    Tue May 27, 2003 01:15 
 12   Its a dissapointment but     Terry C    Tue May 27, 2003 11:46 
 13   Such good news     NonSWP    Tue May 27, 2003 11:46 
 14   re terry c     independent    Tue May 27, 2003 12:47 
 15   21? Look At The CWI?     TROTWATCH    Tue May 27, 2003 13:14 
 16   Marxism is the problem     (:þ)    Tue May 27, 2003 13:30 
 17   Dazed and confused     whoreallycares    Tue May 27, 2003 13:32 
 18   Interesting     Magneto    Tue May 27, 2003 13:39 
 19   Don't forget the others     Joe    Tue May 27, 2003 13:50 
 20   Dang!     TROTWATCH    Tue May 27, 2003 13:53 
 21   independent     Terry c    Tue May 27, 2003 13:54 
 22   re: terry     Andrew    Tue May 27, 2003 14:26 
 23   Organisational splits are usually a manifestation of a rightward drift     Party Builder    Tue May 27, 2003 14:29 
 24   Lets Hope     TROTWATCH    Tue May 27, 2003 14:38 
 25   Disagree with the SWP and you are rebelling against toilet training     Potty Builder    Tue May 27, 2003 14:50 
 26   re: terry swp contempt for the working class     independent    Tue May 27, 2003 15:19 
 27   Dependent (independent)     Don    Tue May 27, 2003 16:12 
 28   no need for any socialist party     dan    Tue May 27, 2003 16:30 
 29   Flitting...     Insurgent    Wed May 28, 2003 09:31 
 30   paradigmatic change required     Gaillimhed    Wed May 28, 2003 12:44 
 31   Socialist Alternative     Greg    Wed May 28, 2003 15:07 
 32   Weird trot logic     Joe    Wed May 28, 2003 16:01 
 33   And they have done it again     S.H    Wed May 28, 2003 16:09 
 34   On Organisation     Greg    Wed May 28, 2003 16:17 
 35   Oh, I see     Ray    Wed May 28, 2003 16:20 
 36   'Revolutionary' politics     Joe    Wed May 28, 2003 16:33 
 37   It is being whispered     Reborn    Wed May 28, 2003 16:41 
 38   To Paul .J     SWPer    Wed May 28, 2003 17:18 
 39   They don't like British rule     SH    Thu May 29, 2003 11:11 
 40   A few points for Right wing split-off SA     SA watcher    Thu May 29, 2003 12:53 
 41   .     SA watcher    Thu May 29, 2003 12:56 
 42   Question for SA watcher     Ray    Thu May 29, 2003 15:14 
 43   Question for SWP and SP     pat c    Thu May 29, 2003 18:16 
 44   Pat C     Finghin    Thu May 29, 2003 18:53 
 45   Thanks Finghin     pat c    Thu May 29, 2003 19:10 
 46   I would spoil     spoiler    Thu May 29, 2003 19:10 
 47   Party 'education' not improving     Trot doublespeak    Fri May 30, 2003 16:21 
 48   Pat C     Finghin    Fri May 30, 2003 19:02 


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