Not to late for Evian - meeting tonight in conways

by GR bus Wed May 21, 2003 14:41

GR bus that is leaving on Friday and coming back on the Tuesday will cost €165.

GR bus: Open to people of all political viewpoints!

by the Good Bus (another person) Wed May 21, 2003 14:55

Everyone is also welcome to come along to the SPI Bar tomorrow night. The bar manager says no politics in the bar so it'll be a chance to relax without leaflets being thrust at you, from either bus!

The lineup times will be posted soon.

Also the Good Bus has had emails from individuals who are travelling on their own, via plane, train, etc. Hope you can all come along this evening as well, we'll be discussing how to link with us, what campsite we'll be on, etc.

by mwah - none Wed May 21, 2003 14:55

I heard one GR bus was cancelled.
still places on the Friday bus too?
And on the good bus?
Whats with people not going to Evian?

by Evian head Wed May 21, 2003 15:15

From talking to an SWPer it sounds like the GR longer bus has been cancelled. But I dont know anything more about the details, nothing about it on their site.

Also according to their site GR are staying in a place called Camp Connolly but I havent seen or heard that camp name anywhere on the web on sites for Evian.

by Gurrier - In memory of Stalin's victims Wed May 21, 2003 15:29

GR is a SWiPpy Front
Doo dah, doo dah
Come along and be their grunt
doo dah, doo dah deh

GR drones march in file
doo dah, doo dah
Normal people run a mile
doo dah, doo dah deh

GR follows Joe the bold
doo dah, doo dah
Make sure to do as you're told
doo dah, doo dah deh

GR is a rebel crew
doo dah, doo dah
paper sales and chanting too
doo dah, doo dah deh

by pat c Wed May 21, 2003 15:43

in moscow, in the kremlin,
in the fall of 39,
sat a russian
and a prussian
working out the party line.

should auld anarchists be forgot
and never brought to mined
cos they're down a mineshaft in siberia
with ball and chain behind

with ball and chain behind my dear
with ball and chain behind

cos lenin, trotsky and stalin butchered the lot of them
for the sake of the party line

by pat c Wed May 21, 2003 15:44

maybe it should be called the GRU bus?

by GR bargains Wed May 21, 2003 16:35

GR bus that is leaving on Friday and coming back on the Tuesday will cost ?165. This is a massive 20% discount over that offered by our nearest rivals.

GR bus: Open to people of all political viewpoints who want to spend a few days being asked if they want to join the party.

Do you want to join the party.

You must want to join the party now.

No really, please join the party.

At least buy a paper.

Now that you've bought a paper you must want to join the party.

Look we are the real anti-capitalists so join the party.

It's not fair, we organised this bus for you so you have to join the party.

Well how about at least joining GR. You must feel part of GR now that you have been trapped with us all week?

Now that you've joined GR you should really join the party.

[And the SWP wonder why people don't want to travel with them!]

by Joe Wed May 21, 2003 16:59

The problem the SWP has with the 'good bus' is that GR was created (from above by the party leadership on instruction from London) in order to 'be' the anti-capitalist movement. So for the SWP it is a disaster that an actual anti-capitalist movement is emerging from below in the form of the good bus and other initatives.

What is more because of the SWP manipulation of GR and the fact that most of the Good Bus crowd have been through GR and have sworn 'never again' they are hostile to the SWP project. So when as above the SWP advertise the GR bus as cheaper then the good bus they are telling us a lot more then it seems at first.

SWP members need to give it some thought. YOUR ACTIONS have created an anti-capitalist movement hostile to your politics. Blame who you like for this but nearly all this crowd have been part of GR, have travelled with GR and have come to their own decisions on that basis. It didn't have to be that way.

by good bus operative Wed May 21, 2003 16:59 thegoodbus at yahoo dot co dot uk

"GR bus €165
by GR bus Wed, May 21 2003, 1:41pm

GR bus that is leaving on Friday and coming back on the Tuesday will cost €165."

What has this followup to do with the original article, apart from promoting rivalry? Can't the GR just organise their bus and leave others to do what they want? Or must the GR/SWP have a one party state...sorry I mean a monopoly of protest buses.

It seems strange to accuse anyone who doesn't do what you are doing of sectarianism!

"GR bus: Open to people of all political viewpoints!""

So is the good bus. It's a good bus, cos it's against the G8? Ok, get over it.

It's pretty sad and pathetic that GR people are getting so wound up and upset that someone else is deciding to run another non party organised bus to Evian. Also is there any point in denying any GR event is organised by the SWP? Are the SWP ashamed of their SWP status? Seems odd...

Anyway come to the meeting tonight if you are coming to Evian for the week and want advise, no matter how you are going.

by damnbutter Wed May 21, 2003 17:03

Did anyone tell you that the UEFA Cup final is on tonight or is this a SWP inspired ploy to keep out any "squaddists"?

by Mags Wed May 21, 2003 17:20

Ah damn, would ya have a titter of wit - sure they are TROTS. Real life must never impinge...

See ya for the game :) :)

Hail Hail, 'Mon the Hoops!

by pat c Wed May 21, 2003 17:28

Remember: Marxism Rejects Individual Tourism!

by Sectarian Watcher Wed May 21, 2003 21:43

this thread is full of sectarian bile that is typical of the anarcho left in this country.

by 1 of the good bus - The good bus Wed May 21, 2003 23:31

[ Three posts above this claiming that the goodbus had been cancelled were deleted by R Isible as this claim was untrue. Indymedia.ie is dedicated to the passionate, accurate and radical telling of news. Lies are inaccurate. Thanks.]

The good bus has not been cancelled.
Quit spreading rumours.
The good bus people will all be going to Evian together.
More to be announced.
Fundraiser not cancelled.
Nothing cancelled.

by pat c Thu May 22, 2003 10:09

the sectarians are the trots who spread disinformation about the good bus being cancelled.

by songwriter Thu May 22, 2003 10:18

If you don't want to join the Party
Sectarian Bile
If you haven't bought the paper
Sectarian Bile
If you don't obey the orders
Sectarian Bile
And if you want to do it yourself
Sectarian Bile

If you don't enjoy the speeches
Sectarian Bile
If you don't come to the meeting
Sectarian Bile
Reclaim the Streets and all that crap
Sectarian Bile
Indymedia is the supreme
Sectarian Bile

But we will cure your
Sectarian Bile
'Cos the Party will smash
Sectarian Bile
All our members truly hate
Sectarian Bile
So now listen join the socialists
Sectarian bile
Is not the answer.

by conor (wsm personal capacity) Thu May 22, 2003 14:41

Sectarian Bile
by Sectarian Watcher Wed, May 21 2003, 8:43pm

this thread is full of sectarian bile that is typical of the anarcho left in this country.

Except very few of the posters (those that I know any way) are actually anarchists

I have to agree though funny in parts it is a bit ridiculous !

Conor

by pat c Thu May 22, 2003 15:22

"I have to agree though funny in parts it is a bit ridiculous ! "

Sounds like a description of you krossie!

by conor (wsm personal capacity) Thu May 22, 2003 15:41

Hey I'm funny ALL OVER

conor