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U.S. Forces Fire on Iraqi Protesters killing 13

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Tuesday April 29, 2003 16:37author by Andrew Report this post to the editors

The al-Jazeera television station, quoting local residents, said the U.S. troops opened fire after someone threw a rock at the school.

This is what 'liberation' looks like - this is the second major massacre of protesters in Iraq by US forces so far.

More details at
http://www.infoshop.org/inews/stories.php?story=03/04/29/5445753

Related Link: http://www.infoshop.org/inews/stories.php?story=03/04/29/5445753
author by corporal clegg - (of wooden leg fame)publication date Tue Apr 29, 2003 16:51author address author phone Report this post to the editors

its like a b-movie script, terrible acting and totally predictable.

author by Josefpublication date Tue Apr 29, 2003 17:33author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Looks very familiar. Still, there's a war on.

author by hunterpublication date Tue Apr 29, 2003 18:21author address author phone Report this post to the editors

funny you should say that josef. sure wasn't it only the other day you were tellin us all that the war was in fact, no matter how much we didn't want it to be, over?

isn't doublethink a great thing?

author by wasichupublication date Tue Apr 29, 2003 18:26author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Gee, Josef, such compassion!

Too bad you're not there to dust some of the kiddies yourself.

author by kokomeropublication date Tue Apr 29, 2003 18:29author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Rocks are obviously weapons of mass destruction and the the American response regretably caused collateral damage.

Seriously though, this shows the same callous disregard for human life so evident in the approach of the Americans and their allies.

Their approach builds on that of the Israeli military, from whom they have received advice, equipment and training in urban combat.

The end justifies the means!?

author by Despublication date Tue Apr 29, 2003 18:37author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Just like the "liberation" of Afghanistan. Now a large number of Iraqis have been liberated into the grave. I have got to hand it to the yanks, when it comes to winning friends (in reverse) they don't need lessons from anyone, including the Zionists.

author by Josefpublication date Tue Apr 29, 2003 20:13author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Where did I say the war was over? All I'm saying in my seemingly glib remark is that it's not a normal situation in Iraq as opposed to the other occasions I mentioned when the British army got a little jumpy and fired shots.

There are conflicting reports about gunfire and lack of so I'll not pass judgement just yet. I'll wait for the movie of the book of the public inquiry into the inevitable initial inquiry.

Doesn't change my view that the removal of the Baathists and the manner in which it was done was a good thing for Iraq.

author by STOP NYC Inc.publication date Wed Apr 30, 2003 02:01author address author phone Report this post to the editors

...and committ war crimes. But they do care about one thing-money!

Which is why we should stop givin the Yanks any more-why finance their wars?


BOYCOTT THEIR MULTINATIONALS!

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author by Historianpublication date Wed Apr 30, 2003 08:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Accounts of the incident in Iraq are eerily like Bloody Sunday, including even the size of the death toll.
If there isn't an Iraqi version of the Provisional IRA in being already, I suspect there will be one soon. No, it isn't over and it may only have got started just now.

author by Matthewpublication date Wed Apr 30, 2003 09:58author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The day after the first massacre in Falluja, at a protest against the initial slaughter, US troops kill more unarmed demonstrators:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=KUZYEOYACO5JICRBAELCFEY?type=topNews&storyID=2656997

Interesting to note the similarites with Bloody Sunday. At BS UK troops said they were fired at, but somehow the only people they killed were unarmed civilians. So much for marksmanship.

In Falluja, the US troops said they saw 2 light machine guns, and then proceed to kill 15 and wound 50-70 civilians. How does it take 65-85 people to operate 2 light machine guns against US forces. Short answer, it doesn't. I doubt the 10 year-olds that were killed could even lift the 2 machine guns that were displayed by US forces.

Imperialist armed forces seem to believe that when they come under attack from a few people at point A they are perfectly justified in killing uninvolved unarmed people at every point other than A. Funny how the "terrorist" attackers never seem to get killed at these protests. Maybe its because they don't exist.

author by Simpson eh?publication date Wed Apr 30, 2003 12:07author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Reports this morning on Newstalk (& ireland.com)state that 2 more protesters were shot this morning:

"Some local people believed as many as four people might have been killed and said the demonstrators had been unarmed.

A hospital official in Falluja said he had seen two young men who died of head wounds inflicted by US troops. "The number of killed was two. They were hit in the head," said Ahmed al-Taha, putting their ages between the late 20s and early 30s." (Ireland.com)

His hospital was treating eight wounded and other casualties were taken to a different clinic.

Rumsfeld to troops: "Those pesky protesters why won't they leave the benevolent liberators alone! Now let's get us some more damn rag heads!"

author by Zebe steiyalpublication date Wed Apr 30, 2003 12:29author address author phone Report this post to the editors

This is an example of the so called liberty and freedom Americans are bringing to long suffering Iraqis. It appears Iraqis don't even have the right to peaceful protest, without getting shot dead, by trigger happy GIs. Looks like it could be a regieme change for the worst, with Iraqis still not able to speak out without getting slaughtered by gun totting goons.

author by Aidanpublication date Wed Apr 30, 2003 12:53author address author phone Report this post to the editors


I SEE THE US ARMY TRAINING PAID OFF......
by sammy - Independent Wed, Apr 30 2003, 11:46am
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Lt Col Eric Nantz, of the 82nd Airborne said of his troops shooting 13 people in a crowd in Iraq: "There were a lot of people armed and throwing rocks. How is a US soldier to tell the difference between a rock and a grenade?" How indeed? I mean how could you tell the difference so let's just shoot all those Iraqis in the meanwhile just in case. Maybe the rocks were WMD's?????

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