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category national | miscellaneous | news report author Tuesday December 10, 2002 15:03author by Ray Report this post to the editors

There was a packed audience last night for Graham Linehan's interview with Michael Moore.

The interview was originally supposed to held in the Royal College of Surgeons, 2 (?) weeks ago, but was moved to the main theatre in Liberty Hall. The room was completely full, with around 2-300 people attending, and as I entered there was a substantial queue of people without tickets waiting for vacancies.

The interview started by talking about the circumstances surrounding the publication of 'Stupid White Men'. The book was published last September, and was due to go out to bookshops on the 11th. Moore agreed to a delay in shipping, but he was eventually told that the book wouldn't be distributed without major changes - the 50,000 copies that had already been printed and were sitting in warehouses were going to be pulped. Word got out, and librarian-led protest (librarians have a massive book budget) persuaded HarperCollins to release the book unchanged. SWM has been the biggest-selling non-fiction book in the US this year - but HarperCollins have never publicised it, and never even sent out review copies.

Most of the interview was about how the book (and the movie, Bowling for Columbine) have been treated by the media. In the US especially they've been largely ignored apparently, and the reviews that have appeared have been full of disinformation. Interestingly, Moore argued that the coverage he does get is almost entirely focussed on the gun issue. Apparently no-one talks about race in the US anymore, and those bits of his films/books just aren't mentioned.

As the meeting was opened to the floor (and after an over-enthusiastic speaker from the balcony), somebody brought up the Shannon protest on Sunday, and the contrast between the hundreds of people coming to a talk and less than a hundred people who went from Dublin to Shannon, so there was a bit of a discussion about how to go from persuading people of an idea to getting them out on a protest.

Moore's answers were entertaining (talking about his experiences at an Arsenal football match), but not that convincing. Basically he argued that activists shouldn't talk down to people, should try to be more engaging. While this is true enough - lecturing people about the dialectic, or how bad they are if they don't go on a protest, generally isn't helpful - it was a bit of a straw man. Sure, some people see themselves as 'professional revolutionaries', but most activists I know don't think of themselves like that. His argument was also weakened by using himself as an example - his point was that people listen to him because he's an ordinary slob they can relate to, but his audience was just the crowd of college students and 20-30 year old graduates you'd expect, not ordinary slobs.

Anyway, it was an entertaining enough evening. Moore is a good speaker, who can handle a crowd well, and he is quite interesting and entertaining. The only depressing thing - and its not his fault - is how many of last nights attendee's probably do just think of it as entertainment. How many left Liberty Hall glad they'd had a laugh, and happy to have their right-on credentials confirmed, and how many left determined to do something about the problems Moore raised?

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Straw man     Justin Moran    Tue Dec 10, 2002 15:18 
   Michael Moore is correct     Jerry    Tue Dec 10, 2002 15:27 
   Sinn Fein?     Jerry    Tue Dec 10, 2002 15:29 
   re Jerry     Andrew    Tue Dec 10, 2002 15:36 
   jerry     pat c    Tue Dec 10, 2002 15:48 
   Engaging with people     Ray    Tue Dec 10, 2002 15:49 
   michael moore on ireland     pat c    Tue Dec 10, 2002 15:59 
   Moore     Dave D    Tue Dec 10, 2002 16:13 
   Here Here     Jerry    Tue Dec 10, 2002 16:26 
 10   Interest in politics and change     Terry    Tue Dec 10, 2002 16:39 
 11   dave and jerry (wheres tom?)     pat c    Tue Dec 10, 2002 16:47 
 12   But what do you think about Moore in general?     Dave D    Tue Dec 10, 2002 16:57 
 13   & i will if you stop grinding your anti republican axe.     pat c    Tue Dec 10, 2002 17:02 
 14   To Pat C.     Jerry    Tue Dec 10, 2002 17:12 
 15   Oh, you've really done it now Jerry     Oh no, what have you done    Tue Dec 10, 2002 17:28 
 16   Go on pat - tell him to stop dehumanising people     blisset    Tue Dec 10, 2002 17:46 
 17   Pat C     Phuq Hedd    Tue Dec 10, 2002 18:00 
 18   Anti-crusty bullshit - just another excuse for APATHY     Declan    Tue Dec 10, 2002 18:05 
 19   well said declan.     iosaf    Tue Dec 10, 2002 20:01 
 20   you havent answered my questions     Pat C    Wed Dec 11, 2002 11:25 
 21   North     Eamonn C    Wed Dec 11, 2002 12:26 
 22   the old question     pat c    Wed Dec 11, 2002 13:01 
 23   Questions     Eamonn C    Wed Dec 11, 2002 14:03 
 24   eamonn     pat c    Wed Dec 11, 2002 17:50 
 25   Final remarks     Eamonn C    Wed Dec 11, 2002 18:27 
 26   Final remarks     Eamonn C    Wed Dec 11, 2002 18:28 
 27   eamon     pat c    Wed Dec 11, 2002 18:49 
 28   Dave D: Nader vs. Gore vs. Bush     Phuq Hedd    Wed Dec 11, 2002 21:41 
 29   More Moore Info     Phillip McAvity    Thu Dec 12, 2002 07:07 
 30   Moore ignores gun role in Black liberation/revolution     John    Thu Dec 12, 2002 08:16 
 31   War in Iraq     Henry    Thu Dec 12, 2002 08:37 
 32   Gore vs. Bush     Ray    Thu Dec 12, 2002 10:05 
 33   Choice of two, must choose one     Dave D    Thu Dec 12, 2002 15:04 
 34   Poll: What is everyone's nationality?     Todd    Thu Dec 12, 2002 15:42 
 35   Choice of two     Ray    Thu Dec 12, 2002 15:54 
 36   Yea but     Dave D    Thu Dec 12, 2002 16:26 
 37   On the other hand     Ray    Thu Dec 12, 2002 16:47 
 38   Yea but     Dave D    Thu Dec 12, 2002 17:01 
 39   Dave D: simple choice of two things, must choose one     PHuq Hedd    Thu Dec 12, 2002 17:51 
 40   Response     Dave D    Thu Dec 12, 2002 23:57 
 41   Dave D, brief answer     Phuq Hedd    Fri Dec 13, 2002 05:14 
 42   Referendums     Ray    Fri Dec 13, 2002 10:16 
 43   Right but     Dave D    Fri Dec 13, 2002 11:59 
 44   Also for clarification     Dave D    Fri Dec 13, 2002 12:29 
 45   Comments     Ray    Fri Dec 13, 2002 12:36 
 46   Right...     Dave D    Fri Dec 13, 2002 13:00 
 47   Referenda     Ray    Fri Dec 13, 2002 13:27 
 48   Clear conscience     Dave D    Fri Dec 13, 2002 14:04 
 49   Problems     Ray    Fri Dec 13, 2002 14:26 
 50   Dave D: different approach?     Phuq Hedd    Fri Dec 13, 2002 16:28 
 51   Only got a minute     Dave D    Fri Dec 13, 2002 17:36 


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