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CENSORSHIP AT INDYMEDIA?

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Monday December 09, 2002 14:10author by CENSORSHIP Report this post to the editors

Censorship At Indymedia depends on which computer you submit your story to. One computer is particularly bad. Many European Indy sites, not this one, are on this machine.

CENSORSHIP AT INDYMEDIA?

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If you run the INDYMEDIA IP addresses by a DNS server you find the following:

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Name: adelaide.indymedia.org.au
Address: 203.12.146.250
Aliases: adelaide.indymedia.org

Name: www.cat.org.au
Address: 203.53.14.41
Aliases: www.indymedia.org.nz

Name: conway.cat.org.au
Address: 203.53.14.41
Aliases: brisbane.indymedia.org

Name: jakarta.indymedia.org.au
Address: 203.12.146.250
Aliases: jakarta.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: melbourne.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: sydney.indymedia.org

Name: nigeria.indymedia.org
Address: 216.243.113.25

Name: stray.linefeed.org
Address: 216.218.240.191
Aliases: southafrica.indymedia.org, sa.indymedia.org
stray.indymedia.org

Name: bear.indymedia.org
Address: 216.243.113.25
Aliases: athens.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: austria.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: barcelona.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: belgium.indymedia.org

Name: brisimc.www.southspace.net
Address: 217.207.126.51
Aliases: bristol.indymedia.org

Name: zero.bandwidthcoop.org
Address: 216.243.113.29
Aliases: cyprus.indymedia.org, zero.indymedia.org

Name: euskalherria.indymedia.org
Address: 212.100.230.21

Name: www.vaikuttava.net
Address: 194.29.194.26

Name: germany.indymedia.org
Addresses: 134.102.6.205, 213.73.91.34, 216.231.32.98

Name: indymedia.ie
Address: 66.39.75.250
Aliases: ireland.indymedia.org

Name: italy.indymedia.org
Address: 212.100.230.23

Name: fanelli.sindominio.net
Address: 213.172.36.134
Aliases: madrid.indymedia.org, acp.sindominio.net

Name: indymedia.nl
Address: 192.87.116.7

Name: defiance.copyleft.no
Address: 213.151.134.68
Aliases: www.indymedia.no

Name: portugal.indymedia.org
Address: 212.100.230.20
Aliases: pt.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: prague.indymedia.org

Name: mule.mutualaid.org
Address: 66.92.157.137
Aliases: russia.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: sweden.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: switzerland.indymedia.org

Name: bear.indymedia.org
Address: 216.243.113.25
Aliases: thessaloniki.indymedia.org

Name: sharedweb.srv.poptel.org.uk
Address: 213.55.14.32
Aliases: www.indymedia.org.uk

Name: ender.indymedia.org
Address: 64.69.77.162
Aliases: alberta.indymedia.org, calgary.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: hamilton.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: maritimes.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: montreal.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: ontario.indymedia.org

Name: ottawa.indymedia.ca
Address: 66.11.170.74

Name: cmaq.net
Address: 216.46.21.42
Aliases: quebec.indymedia.org, www.cmaq.net

Name: stray.linefeed.org
Address: 216.218.240.191
Aliases: thunderbay.indymedia.org, stray.indymedia.org

Name: ender.indymedia.org
Address: 64.69.77.162
Aliases: vancouver.indymedia.org

Name: ender.indymedia.org
Address: 64.69.77.162
Aliases: victoria.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: windsor.indymedia.org

Name: stray.linefeed.org
Address: 216.218.240.191
Aliases: argentina.indymedia.org, linefeed.indymedia.org
stray.indymedia.org
Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: bolivia.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: brasil.indymedia.org

Name: chiapas.indymedia.org
Address: 216.89.24.62

Name: stray.linefeed.org
Address: 216.218.240.191
Aliases: chile.indymedia.org, linefeed.indymedia.org
stray.indymedia.org

Name: stray.linefeed.org
Address: 216.218.240.191
Aliases: colombia.indymedia.org, stray.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: ecuador.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: mexico.indymedia.org

Name: stray.linefeed.org
Address: 216.218.240.191
Aliases: peru.indymedia.org, stray.indymedia.org

Name: stray.linefeed.org
Address: 216.218.240.191
Aliases: uruguay.indymedia.org, linefeed.indymedia.org
stray.indymedia.org
Name: indymedia.org.il
Address: 65.18.167.60

Name: stray.linefeed.org
Address: 216.218.240.191
Aliases: jerusalem.indymedia.org, stray.indymedia.org

Name: stray.linefeed.org
Address: 216.218.240.191
Aliases: arizona.indymedia.org, linefeed.indymedia.org
stray.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: atlanta.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: austin.indymedia.org

Name: baltimoreimc.org
Address: 207.87.59.92
Aliases: baltimore.indymedia.org, www.baltimoreimc.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: boston.indymedia.org

Name: buffalo.indymedia.org
Address: 216.153.135.84

Name: zero.bandwidthcoop.org
Address: 216.243.113.29
Aliases: cfl.indymedia.org, zero.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: chicago.indymedia.org

Name: www.madhattersimc.org
Address: 64.29.16.110

Name: mule.mutualaid.org
Address: 66.92.157.137
Aliases: dc.indymedia.org

Name: judi.indymedia.org
Address: 67.113.144.26
Aliases: eugene.indymedia.org

Name: indyhawaii.org
Address: 216.218.240.191
Aliases: www.indyhawaii.org

Name: stray.linefeed.org
Address: 216.218.240.191
Aliases: houston.indymedia.org, linefeed.indymedia.org
stray.indymedia.org
Name: idaho.indymedia.org
Address: 208.39.216.125

Name: zero.bandwidthcoop.org
Address: 216.243.113.29
Aliases: ithaca.indymedia.org, zero.indymedia.org

Name: la.indymedia.org
Address: 216.89.24.61

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: madison.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: maine.indymedia.org

Name: www.michiganimc.org
Address: 68.41.28.127

Name: www.stlimc.org
Address: 216.90.94.160
Aliases: milwaukee.indymedia.org, stlouis.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: twincities.indymedia.org, minneapolis.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: newjersey.indymedia.org

Name: zero.bandwidthcoop.org
Address: 216.243.113.29
Aliases: newmexico.indymedia.org, nm.indymedia.org, zero.indymedia.org

Name: chapelhill.indymedia.org
Address: 152.2.210.81

Name: ntimc.org
Address: 66.197.72.127
Aliases: www.ntimc.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: nycap.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: nyc.indymedia.org

Name: phillyimc.org
Address: 207.106.76.109
Aliases: www.phillyimc.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: portland.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: richmond.indymedia.org

Name: zero.bandwidthcoop.org
Address: 216.243.113.29
Aliases: rochester.indymedia.org, zero.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: rockymountain.indymedia.org

Name: sandiego.indymedia.org
Address: 132.239.126.17

Name: sf.indymedia.org
Address: 209.133.53.78

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: santacruz.indymedia.org

Name: seattle.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98

Name: www.stlimc.org
Address: 216.90.94.160
Aliases: stlouis.indymedia.org

Name: urbana.indymedia.org
Address: 64.5.70.195

Name: stray.linefeed.org
Address: 216.218.240.191
Aliases: utah.indymedia.org, linefeed.indymedia.org, stray.indymedia.org

Name: stallman.indymedia.org
Address: 216.231.32.98
Aliases: vermont.indymedia.org

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I was interested in this, as some INDYMEDIA sites suffer from particularly heavy censorship,
and I wondered if they where connected in any way.

WELL THEY ARE. All the sites that censor heavily are included in the following list
(but not all of them censor heavily).


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The main computer with the

Name: stallman.indymedia.org and

IP Address: 216.231.32.98 has the following aliases

(that is all the following addresses are on the same computer)

Aliases: melbourne.indymedia.org
Aliases: sydney.indymedia.org
Aliases: austria.indymedia.org
Aliases: barcelona.indymedia.org
Aliases: belgium.indymedia.org
Aliases: germany.indymedia.org
Aliases: prague.indymedia.org
Aliases: sweden.indymedia.org
Aliases: switzerland.indymedia.org
Aliases: hamilton.indymedia.org
Aliases: maritimes.indymedia.org
Aliases: montreal.indymedia.org
Aliases: ontario.indymedia.org
Aliases: windsor.indymedia.org
Aliases: bolivia.indymedia.org
Aliases: brasil.indymedia.org
Aliases: ecuador.indymedia.org
Aliases: mexico.indymedia.org
Aliases: atlanta.indymedia.org
Aliases: austin.indymedia.org
Aliases: boston.indymedia.org
Aliases: chicago.indymedia.org
Aliases: madison.indymedia.org
Aliases: maine.indymedia.org
Aliases: twincities.indymedia.org
Aliases: minneapolis.indymedia.org
Aliases: newjersey.indymedia.org
Aliases: nycap.indymedia.org
Aliases: nyc.indymedia.org
Aliases: portland.indymedia.org
Aliases: richmond.indymedia.org
Aliases: rockymountain.indymedia.org
Aliases: santacruz.indymedia.org
Aliases: vermont.indymedia.org

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So lets hear it for R. Stallman, the champion of "free speech".

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author by Raypublication date Mon Dec 09, 2002 14:16author address author phone Report this post to the editors

'Censorship' at indymedia depends on whether or not you break the editorial guidelines. If you do, then your post will be deleted.

author by iosaf (he of the free speech agenda)publication date Mon Dec 09, 2002 14:18author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I mean you´ve made a list and I know long lists are very impressive, but without any particular point appearing to lucidly be made.

You say censorship depends on which computer.

But Ireland isn´t using the computer.
oh thank god for that.
Neither by the way are the indymedia services ot collectives for:
Finland
or
Wales
so it appears we may have more than one indymedia computer.
please I´m intrigued explain what this is all about?
Are you saying that the long list of indymedia centres above are using the same software to edit out offensive material?
Are you saying that the long list of indymedia centres above are little more than an extended website of one individual?
= what are you saying?

author by Eddiepublication date Mon Dec 09, 2002 14:19author address author phone Report this post to the editors

who never gets censored

author by iosafpublication date Mon Dec 09, 2002 14:20author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Name: euskalherria.indymedia.org
Address: 212.100.230.21

Name: www.vaikuttava.net
Address: 194.29.194.26

sitting next to Basque.
what are u saying?
or is this just the constant monday posting?

author by iosafpublication date Mon Dec 09, 2002 14:25author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I love the French.
but the addition of sindominio.net
which is the home of Madrid indymedia.
sindominio has been around for long long long time.
It´s thoughts on censorship and having computers linked up 24/7/356 to the internet are well known in the techy-circles.
So whilst there are a dew people online now, at this very moment who can point out flaws in your impressive list, what is it you´re saying?
Or we might as well point out embedded programs in Microsoft Excel version 3 which allow for a long list of the damned to pop up, and say hey
the proof!!!
Bill Gates is the antichrist.
and not think it´s just a programming joke.
so what are you saying?
and why aren´t the french on the list?
hey?
do you know?

author by pat cpublication date Mon Dec 09, 2002 14:26author address author phone Report this post to the editors

are you saying that all of these sites are run by one meglomaniac?!

oh no! my worst fears have come to pass! its a worldwide conspiracy!

now all of us who have read the posting will vanish in without a tra

author by iosaf (vive la France!)publication date Mon Dec 09, 2002 14:29author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Related Link: http://nice.indymedia.org/plan.php3
author by iosafpublication date Mon Dec 09, 2002 14:30author address author phone Report this post to the editors

est perdu!

author by iosafpublication date Mon Dec 09, 2002 14:34author address author phone Report this post to the editors

you´ve been shocked by

the crusty hippy trippy anarko fifth international of loved up muppets
coming together with
the megaphone wielding fourth international of socialists and bolshieviks
coming together with
the historically accurate and chip on shoulder nationalist "we don´t have a chip on our shoulder" republican family
coming together with
the Roman Catholic church did a lot of very bad things but many of us don´t want more of it peacniks.

in their wonderful actions against this sort of thing
in Dublin and Shannon.

and now you´ve abducted our beloved Pat C.

well you´ll not waste my time.
oh no.
my time will not be wasted.

author by Raypublication date Mon Dec 09, 2002 14:41author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Pat has been abducted.
by psi phi Mon, Dec 9 2002, 1:38pm
only some moments ago.
a team of sinister darth vader types abseiled through the windows of historically accurate but maybe with a chip on the shoulder republican Irish history institute and took away Pat C.

This happened literally minutes after a news heavy and relevant post had been published on irelnad indymedia by the very trusted and respected CENSORSHIP.

our thoughts are as follows:

the crusty hippy trippy anarko fifth international of loved up muppets
coming together with
the megaphone wielding fourth international of socialists and bolshieviks
coming together with
the historically accurate and chip on shoulder nationalist "we don´t have a chip on our shoulder" republican family
coming together with
the Roman Catholic church did a lot of very bad things but many of us don´t want more of it peacniks.

in their wonderful actions against this sort of thing
in Dublin and Shannon.

has provoked this terrible thing.

well you´ll not waste my time.
oh no.
my time will not be wasted.

onwards with the Evolving Revolution.

author by iosafpublication date Mon Dec 09, 2002 14:42author address author phone Report this post to the editors

a moment ago I published an account of Pat C.´s abduction by these sinister elements
and it´s been censored off the newswire!

yes gone just- like Pat.
they´ll be coming for us all next.
with....." the computer ".

author by Raypublication date Mon Dec 09, 2002 14:45author address author phone Report this post to the editors

as per the editorial guidelines

being comments, not news - comments belong with the story being discussed - to have your say in response to a story on the site, use the "add your comments" link at the bottom of each story.

author by iosaf (in panic)publication date Mon Dec 09, 2002 14:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Pat may be o.k. his comments appeared on other articles, so maybe he´s just flying his flag safely down the newswire.

author by pat cpublication date Mon Dec 09, 2002 14:51author address author phone Report this post to the editors


(my comments on other threads were before the rescue)

the libertarian space marines have freed me!

launched from the starship "remember kronstadt", the "Jack White" Special Services Squadron daringly cornered the international imc cabal who (posing as aliens) had abducted me!

it can now be revealed that tony o'reilly was behind the gradual world takeover of imc. he is now in libertarian custody. he will be shot after being tried a workers tribunal.


author by Sigmundpublication date Mon Dec 09, 2002 23:43author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Exactly how old are you kids anyway? Do your daddies know that you're playing with the computer? Start your own website. You might call it Ding-Dong School.

author by iosafpublication date Tue Dec 10, 2002 00:01author address author phone Report this post to the editors

1...make sure you have the bill payer´s permission before you use the internet.
or

2...tap into the telecom system by fiddling about with roof top wires.
(you may get caught doing this if you use your usual ISP but it´s good for ringing around and saying where the weekend party is)
this is I might add very illegal and not clever.
well it is clever, but not in the way your parents wanted you to be clever.

3...work for a telecommunciations company.
4...work for the security forces.

otherwise you just have to deal with the burn.

nice to see Pat has been rescued.
:-)

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