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category national | miscellaneous | news report author Monday December 09, 2002 00:08author by Eric Stewart Report this post to the editors

Take the trail to the the Three and Five "I"s, being careful to avoid the false leads suggesting they refer to the identities of Permindex, Division Five, American Council of Christian Churches, the Solidarists, and DISC. There are connections between the two assassinated Kennedys that are so ironic as to exceed the Greek tragedies. Go back to square one to the formation of OSS/CIA Follow the money from there forward. Remember: "The fascists are coming.". If you know what a fascist is... you know what an elitist is... you know what a globalist is...

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Government: Orlando Bosch, Promis, JFK, E. Howard Hunt, Miami, and Operation 40
Posted by: souljah on Dec 08, 2002 - 07:44 AM

what follows is snipped from
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If coded correctly, PROMIS could interface with other databases without reprogramming, giving ability to ostensibly track criminals-but also, potentially, political dissidents--through the computer systems of various police agencies. Casolaro's informant, Michael Riconosciuto added to this the claim that he had personally reprogrammed PROMIS with a backdoor, so it could spy on the methods of the police agencies that were using it for tracking. This gave it added appeal as a covert tool. The US could spy on the very agencies it was selling the software to illegally.

Earl Brian's role in the PROMIS theft was spelled out explicitly by Inslaw lawyer Elliot Richardson, another Watergate figure in The New York Times in 1992. Richardson was the attorney general who actually stood up to Richard Nixon's corruption during the Saturday Night massacre. Brian sued over the New York Times article and lost. Richardson had written the article to encourage investigation of the case, but Brian used the opportunity to start a nuisance libel suit. On November 29, 1995, the New York Court of Appeals dismissed Brian's claim and declared that Richardson's assertions came under free speech protections.

Although never prosecuted over the PROMIS allegations, Brian survived only one more year after the libel suit before other past shady deals began to catch up with him. In October 1996 a California jury convicted him of Federal bank fraud, conspiracy and lying to auditors. Prosecutors charged that Brian had drafted documents to conceal losses of the Financial News Network and United Press International, for whom he served as chief executive, in order to obtain $70 million in bank loans for his other concern, a biotyechnology firm called Infotechnology.

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what follows is snipped from http://www.proparanoid.com/jfk.htm

Take the trail to the the Three and Five "I"s, being careful to avoid the false leads suggesting they refer to the identities of Permindex, Division Five, American Council of Christian Churches, the Solidarists, and DISC. There are connections between the two assassinated Kennedys that are so ironic as to exceed the Greek tragedies. Go back to square one to the formation of OSS/CIA Follow the money from there forward. Remember: "The fascists are coming.". If you know what a fascist is... you know what an elitist is... you know what a globalist is...

~snip~

What follows is the ultimate indictment of and other Operation 40 CIA (AKA Operation Zapata, AKA Bay of Pigs Invasion) agents for the murder of John Kennedy. That not one media representative present at the trial dared print a single word indicts media as being Shadow controlled. That this same testimony was given to FBI within days of the assassination is an indictment of the Justice Department as being Shadow controlled. That the judge presiding over the trial did not order follow-up investigation or indictments for murder is an indictment of the court system as being Shadow controlled. That the same testimony was given the Rockefeller Commission (CFR/Bilderberger/TriLateralist) House Select Committee on Assassinations and nothing was done with the information is an indictment of Congressional oversight as being Shadow controlled.

~snip~

Q. During 1978, did you appear as a witness before the United States House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations?

A. Yes.

~snip~

Q. During and before November of 1963, did you work on behalf of the Central Intelligence Agency in the Miami area?

A. Yes.

Q. Did you work with a man named Frank Sturgis, while you were working for the CIA?

A. Yes, I did.


Q. Was that in Miami, during and prior to November 1963?

A. Yes.

~snip~

Q. Who did you witness make payments to Mr. Sturgis?

A. A man by the name of Eduardo.


Q. Who is Eduardo?

A. That is his code name, the real name is E. Howard Hunt.

~snip~

Q. Did you go on a trip with Mr. Sturgis from Miami during November of 1963?

A. Yes.

~snip~

Q. Without asking you any of the details regarding the activity that you and Mr. Sturgis and Mr. Hunt were involved in, may I ask you is some of that activity was related to the transportation of weapons?

A. Yes.


Q. Did Mr. Hunt pay Mr. Sturgis sums of money for activity related to the transportation of weapons?

A. Yes.


Q. Did Mr. Sturgis tell you where you would be going from Miami, Florida, during November of 1963, prior to the time that you traveled with him in the car?

A. Dallas, Texas.

~snip~

Q. Was there anyone else who you saw or met other than Mr. Hunt?

A. Excuse me?


Q. Other than those?

A. Jack Ruby.

~snip~

Cross Examination to follow. Note: According to Liberty Lobby lawyer, Mark Lane, Lorenz had confided outside of testimony that she got out of Dallas quickly because 'I knew that this was different from other jobs. This was not just gun running. This was big, very big, and I wanted to get out. I told Sturgis I wanted to leave. He said it was a very big operation but that my part was not dangerous. I was to be a decoy. Before he could go further, I said please let me get out. I want to go back to my baby in Miami. Finally he agreed and drove me to the airport.' She further stated she would not reveal the names of others in the cars going to Dallas because 'They killed Kennedy. I don't want to be the one to reveal their names; it's too dangerous.'

However, it would seem apparent that perhaps the agency no longer wished to provide Hunt with any level of protection -- perhaps because they did not like being blackmailed. The evidence for this conclusion lies in the additional information volunteered during cross examination which Mark Lane was unable to obtain himself, directly. Since Lorenz had been coached by CIA council (on what Agency would permit her to say) who also worked with Hunt's CIA sponsored council, it would appear that perhaps the CIA' vested interest was actually working against their 'client', Hunt, rather than for him. In fact, Hunt's whole problem of being accused of being in Dallas surfaced only because former CIA agent Victor Marchetti claimed in 1978 Hunt was in Dallas and Liberty Lobby dared to publish the story. As you read, note how both the lawyer and Lorenz tend to volunteer or bring out information more than called for, and how nothing in the cross examination aids the defense or nullifies earlier testimony. Defense would have been better off not to challenge the witness. It would seem a deliberate confession.

It should also be pointed out that Lorenz says she was inducted into CIA in 1959, and that apparently she and Frank Sturgis worked together early on -- suggesting that even when she was supposedly working for the New York Police Department and the DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration). If true, this would make her and Sturgis illegal in-place CIA operatives within the DEA and NYPD -- likely working under CIA Operation Phoenix assassin king, Lou Conein (founding leader of DEA), to help eliminate drug lords not under CIA control or being supplied by CIA, and to protect CIA conduits and suppliers, the true purpose of the 'War on Drugs'.


Normal transcript resumes:

Q. Please provide at least one additional name of a person accompanying you in the car trip to Dallas in November.

A. The other one was Jerry Patrick --


Q. Jerry Patrick?

A. Hemming.


Q. Is that, H-E-M-M-I-N-G?

A. Yes. Two Cuban brothers named Novis and a pilot named Pedro Diaz Lanz were also in the caravan.


Q. Did you see the weapons in the second car?

A. Yes.


Q. What kind of weapons were there?

A. Handguns and automatics.


Q. Could you identify for me today what kind of guns they were, specifically?

A. Rifles; there were cases of machine guns, rifles, thirty-eights, forty-fives.


Q. Have you been trained in firearms?

A. Yes.


Q. What were the kind of rifles that were there?

A. M-16s. M-1s, shotguns; several.


Q. There were machine guns?

A. Yes.


Q. In your work for the CIA Operation 40, was that one of the major tasks you undertook was to transport guns?

A. Yes.


Q. Was that for the anti-Cuba activities?

A. Yes, it was.


Q. What happened to those guns when you got to Dallas?

A. They were in the other car and I presume they took them to the motel the next day, the next night. A lot of things they carried in.


Q. Where did you leave from?

A. From the house in Miami.

Q. Is that a CIA house?

A. A safe house. Yes.


Q. Did everyone meet at the same place?

A. Yes.


Q. Who else was at the house, besides the seven people you identified?

A. This fellow is incarcerated; it is not fair to answer. Another fellow is dead.


Q. Incarcerated where?

A. Out of the country, right now, Venezuela somewhere.


Q. Is his name Bosch?

A. Yes.


Q. What is his first name?

A. Orlando.


Q. Was he one of the anti-Castro Cubans involved in Operation 40?

A. Yes.


Q. Isn't that a matter of public record?

A. Yes.


Q. Who was the person at the house that is now deceased?

A. Alexander Rorke, Jr.


Q. Is he a CIA employee?

A. Yes.


Q. What did you do after you got to New York and found out that President Kennedy was just assassinated in Dallas?

A. Talked to the FBI.


Q. You talked to the FBI?

A. Yes.


Q. Voluntarily?

A. They wanted to talk to me anyway about certain things with my child's father and they picked me up and took me to the office.


Q. What day would that have been?

A. A few days after I arrived, after everyone got over the initial shock.


Q. It would be some time in the month of November of 1963?

A. Yes.


Q. In your discussions with the FBI, they inquired about your activities which related to Dallas and this group of seven people that took the car trip?

A. Well, they discussed my associates down there and my relationship with my daughter's father, mostly.

Q Did they know the names of the people you took the car trip with, from Miami to Dallas?

A. Yes.


Q. Did they ask you about each of those people?

A. Yes.


Q. Did you tell them about the guns and money and about Eduardo?

A. Yes.


Q. I will have to start again because the court reporter cannot take nods down.

A. I was nodding, yes, to each.


Q. What was your answer?

A. They asked me about everything, my daughter's father, and I am glad I am back up here away from that.


Q. You told them about Eduardo?

A. Yes.


Q. And the guns?

A. They know about all those associations. They didn't want to go into it. Those were CIA activities, not FBI.


Q. Did you ever talk with Frank Sturgis about it, since then?

A. We are not an talking terms, Frank and I.


Q. That was not my question. Have you ever talked about it with Frank Sturgis since 1963?

A. Yes.

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Is it just a coincidence that many of the same players that are in 9:11and everything from the Bay of Pigs to Operation Northwoods to LBJ to the Miami 5 to JFK's assassination to the Venezuelan Coup to Jeb Bush and the election fraud to Florida Flight Schools to Iran-Contra to BCCI all have Florida connections?

Click here for more on that.

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