Many Thanks to the Socialist Party

by Algy Windsor-Parker Sat Nov 16, 2002 00:03

This is really great news, like our prime minister, these former socialists realise the necessity of defending whats left of the empire and of course a constant supply of oinks to get our hands on Sammy Hussein's oil. Arise Sir Peter Hadden .....thank you guys, leon would be deeply moved!

by trousers down lyndsay brown Sat Nov 16, 2002 00:14

confusing the SP with the DUP/LVF again. easy thing to do when you work for MI5/6/FRU. do you have any proof?, details, photos, etc. or is your post more MI5/6 shite stirring.

by asking again. Sat Nov 16, 2002 14:28

or are they too far away?

and those in Valencia?

http://www.sherwood.it/portal/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=238

by hs sp Sat Nov 16, 2002 18:00

yes'asking again' we are in solidarity with activists all over the world, we are internationalists we operate in more than 30 countries, small groups in most but we're doing what we can, nowhere is too far away. For details on what we do and links:
www.worldsocialist-cwi.org

by hs sp Sat Nov 16, 2002 18:02

in italy we are trying to organise a new newspaper, the name is Lotta per il Socialismo,
if you would like top contribute you can contact us at the same site, ciao

by Finghin - Socialist Party Sat Nov 16, 2002 20:12

I am dealing with this whole QUB situation once and for all.

It is not SP policy to support the British Army or any imperialist army.

If any member in QUB did support the Army stand he is going against the party's position. We oppose the British Army on a socialist basis not the sectarian way in which SF deal with it.

I am sure everyone on indymedia could get examples of individual members of different parties going against the parties positions. But we are not childish and don't go around posting it all over the place saying the party in question have sold out or betrayed people etc.

by Algy Windsor-Parker Sat Nov 16, 2002 21:23

You still have not answered the question, if the member of the SP in QUB supported the british army stand which is against party policy, what action (if any) is going to be taken against him?

by the jolly green giant Sat Nov 16, 2002 21:50

Do you really think the SP are going to waste their time answering sectarian swipes from a bunch of wasters.

by high priest Sun Nov 17, 2002 13:04

The SP and the SWP regularily make 'mistakes' it flows from their nutty brands of trotskist dogma. They really believe that they are the revolutionary vanguards! They have fairy tale notions about all workers coming together under their brand of 'socialism', examples are Isreali and Palestinian workers and Nationalist and Unionist workers in the northern part of this country also. Trying to tell them that this is naive, simplistic and just stupid is the same as trying to tell a christian minister or priest that their dogma makes no sense.

by Algy Windsor-Parker Sun Nov 17, 2002 14:09

Leaving aside the "contributions" from cretins, I note that Finghin has not answered my question. I certainly would have respect for Joe Higgins and the SP, but I find the idea of a member of a left wing party displaying support for an imperialist army staggering!!!!

by Finghin - Socialist Party Sun Nov 17, 2002 15:03

I think I have answered everyones question regarding the whole QUB situation. It is also on another thread you might want to look there.

I don't know what 'action would be taken against him'. What do you recommend a punishment beating prehaps?

by Col Blimp Sun Nov 17, 2002 16:53

It's alright then for a member of the SP to support the British Army recruiting? Is that what you're saying? No action should be taken, eh? What does a senior member of the SP have to do to be subject to disciplinary action then?

by Phil Sun Nov 17, 2002 18:32

Of course the British Army should be allowed to recruit, it's a free country, if you don't like it tough shit. Noone stop all your batty outfits recruiting.

by Finghin Sun Nov 17, 2002 22:11

First of all it is not ok for a member of the SP to support a capitalist army recruiting. It would be dealt with properly within the party.

Secondly he is not a 'senior' member of the party. Andy Ward is not a member of any of the national bodies of the SP.

by hs sp Sun Nov 17, 2002 22:19

he will have to go along with the democractically decided party position, if not he must resign.

by Pissedoffwiththeleft Mon Nov 18, 2002 11:20

The left has better things to do than fight amongst each other.